Odd Woman Out

2009 July 12
by linda

The first time I had heard of eating dandelions, it was from my ex sister in law whose mother was Korean. My ex SIL told of a painful childhood memory in which her mother would come out and eat dandelions in front of the neighborhood kids who would then make fun of the woman. I probably had eaten dandelions at home, but the store bought kind because when I first consciously tried them they seemed familiar to me.

For about a year or so now, I have been dreaming of my farm and what I want to plant there. I didn’t realize that how I was planning things was perhaps different from how other people see things. At a blog I frequent, Simple Frugal Green Co-op, the article of the day was about sunflowers (good information, go read it) and the question was, paraphrase-”what non edible plants are you growing?”

From my perspective, at the garden plot and on the farm, most things  in my control are or will be edible in some way-for me, the bees or the soil when turned under. I do concentrate on food for me first though and that is the focus of this article.

Many of the plants that are at the farm, yet out of my control are also edible.  Even peony (roots used in medicine) which I found growing wild and day lily, also wild and a small patch of  common poppy (where do you think poppy seeds come from?) have edible parts. My neighbor is collecting seeds for me to plant more poppys in the fall. This is where you get the edible seeds from. Sure there are things there that are not edible but I didn’t put them there myself.

At the plot, I have one non edible, Victorian Straw Flower.This was given to me  and I took it because I was curious about it  and as far as I know, it isn’t edible at all but I haven’t checked. I also have one carnation in a pot on the porch. I have heard contradictory points of view on whether its edible or not, but it is a good one for sachets. My rose scented geranium is edible as well. Both are quite lovely.

The head botanist of the Chicago park district gave me chrysanthemum left overs. Some species are edible as mine are, both leaves and flowers, not sure about the roots as of yet.  I have them in my plot and a couple up at the farm too. I plan on roses, also edible (both petals and rosehips) and on marigold which I saw a character eating in the movie Monsoon Wedding but don’t know how to use as of yet and also, calendula is of the same family but I don’t drink it, just use it for skin care products, yet some do add it to infusions intended for beverages.  Lavender too. In a pot on the porch and one up at the farm.

I was also given a Mexican sunflower by the head botanist but I am not sure if its edible or not. It doesn’t matter as I am growing five edible sunflowers at my plot. Edible and heirloom no less.The Mexican ones can feed the bees.

I plan on actually landscaping the farm. I know that there are gorgeous flowers that could work well, for example tansy. Viola. Johnny Jump Ups (sort of a viola). I plan on doing a lot of edibles and I think I am drawn to them in general but I also believe that I must have been so intent on finding out what constitutes food that I can’t bring myself to be frivolous with non edibles. You can find so much beauty in nature, some of it is just ornamental and that isn’t a bad thing at all in itself,  but the next time you see an ornamental, find out if you can eat it and if you can, consider if you actually will. Make sure  you have the correct species first though.

Personally, I don’t differntiate between medicinal and “edible” as being two seperate areas as I ascribe to the following:

“Let food be your medicine and medicine be your food” Hippocrates

I may not actually chose to eat any of these things, but I really like having the option. Am I alone in this?

14 Responses leave one →
  1. 2009 July 12

    Hi Linda

    When you talk about marigold and then calendula, is the first marigold the tagates (french marigold)? This isn’t edible or much use medicinally except for making a foot salve, but is good in companion planting next to vegetables. Calendula officinalis, the pot marigold is edible as petals in salads, making teas, using as the “poor man’s saffron” and a host of other medicinal uses – anti-viral, anti-inflamatory etc. It’s one of my most treasured herbs and the slugs have eaten most of mine this year, so I may not have any to harvest (wails!). Hope your daughter is recovered from her accident. I remember having to take my eldest to A&E after he got hurt in a rugby match and there was fear he might have concussion, but he was fine. It was useful to have the list of symptoms to look for for future use. Now he jumps out of aeroplanes and if there is any accident, then there’s nothing I can do about it! I try not to think about it.

  2. 2009 July 12

    Beware of tansy. It is incredibly invasive.

  3. 2009 July 12

    When I had a larger garden I grew a lot of ‘non-edible’ plants because of their other uses, like tansy can be used to make a tea to feed to other plants, and comfrey is useful in medicine but I grew to add to the compost as an activator. These days I grow less of such plants because of space & because of the possums eating everything. But I still keep some, like a pot of aloe vera for small burns, and nasturtiums.

    I was a bit surprised at the Simple Green Frugal post classifying sunflowers as non edible – I add the seeds to muesli & other things, and sunflower oil is commonly used, so I’d classify it as edible.

    I read somewhere years ago that the tradional english cottage garden was originally filled with plants that were useful in some way to the householder, but these days people just try to recreate the look without thinking of the uses the plants originally had.

  4. 2009 July 12
    linda permalink

    Hi Sarah
    I am talking about a wide variety of tagetes. They are said to all be safe but not all taste too great. Here is a link that explains it a little bit more. http://www.henriettesherbal.com/archives/best/1996/marigold.html I have also seen marigold (the generic name no specifications) used in recipes such as this one: http://www.witchway.net/ritual/belcus.html which I would like to try out some time (or a version of it).

    I lost the tab to the calendula that I am growing myself but will find out from the grower what it is. It is very bright orange and I was told that it wasn’t used for anything other than ointments and creams. Sorry to hear that yours isn’t doing well! This is the first year that I grew it and it is doing very well, even a plant that tried to die while we were away is making a big comeback for me!
    My daughter is doing well so far. She is having a great time sitting around doing nothing! I think she earned the break. Thanks for asking.
    You must have nerves of steel when it comes to your son jumping out of planes!

  5. 2009 July 12
    linda permalink

    Thanks Soapbox. So tell me more about the nature of invasive plants. Can they in any way be contained do you know?

  6. 2009 July 12
    linda permalink

    Hi Toria
    I think that there are types of sunflowers that just won’t bear seeds for eating and that is what they meant. I see decorative sunflower all the time in gardens around here and also hot house ones in the supermarkets. I didn’t realize they were talking across the board at the blog though. Kind of puzzling but then, we all write what we know and what we have experienced so far.
    I love the way you describe your old garden. That is exactly where I am trying to head with our land. Useful is just as pretty as non useful to me.
    I suppose in some ways, I am heading towards the old cottage gardens that you describe but also adding useful to the soil and the wild life too, namely because I have noticed that the farm does not have nearly as much wild things in the soil as we have in the city. It needs some food!

  7. 2009 July 12

    Don’t eat the dandelions that people have peed on.

    I have a meal idea.

    Cook hamburger and bacon to taste. Add lettuce, bbq sauce, dandelions.

    Have some home made applesauce on the side. Add a chilled lemonade, and I would call life good.

    I think dandelions will make a bacon cheeseburger meal really stand out. Some lettuce here, dandelions there, bacon in between. Yummy. I think I shall make this meal.

    I challenge someone to think fondly of fast food after reading that.

  8. 2009 July 13
    linda permalink

    I love the idea of using dandelion on hamburger! Did you make it? I miss your meal ideas!
    BTW, been meaning to tell you…….I bought my first smoker at a flea market and am on the lookout for pork belly. Bacon it will be.

  9. 2009 July 13
    Jdude permalink

    I have to find a sanitary source of dandelion, but as soon as I do… yummy!

  10. 2009 July 13
    linda permalink

    That is the hard part. Sad to say, you could always try to find them in a grocery store…….we have tons there that are good but not as strong tasting as wild ones.

  11. 2009 July 15

    Linda, the best way to deal with invasive plants (weeds) is to avoid them completely. And it depends on how they propagate fastest. Most bad weeds tend to propagate via the root systems. This is what makes them so challenging and its why farmers so often stop fighting and go to chemicals.

    So don’t let the stuff go to seed and cultivate, cultivate, cultivate. If the plant propagates via root system, you have to bring the roots to the surface, let them dry out and then either burn or chop the shit out of them.

    Research everything…and I mean everything you grow, as well as what the neighbors are growing since birds and wind transport seeds over miles and miles.

    Weeds also love land that has been left broken but unseeded. It drives me batshit when governments and developers leave behind land they have broken but they do not sow grass seed.

  12. 2009 July 15
    linda permalink

    Thanks again Soapbox. So my idea of taking a part of the land and “rewilding” it may not be such a good one after all……
    I think our land illustrates your point. The area where my family dug up for my herb garden is a case in point. I don’t know what I have but we are seeing regrowth already with roots probably as deep as the foundation of the house. Unable to pull them. One consolation is if we plow our fields it will only be to grow buckwheat in those areas until we can plant in spring. From what you say, we may have to think about pesticides. Wish you could come down and have a look! Its a mess. I won’t add to it after reading your comment.

  13. 2009 July 15

    “Rewilding” isn’t a bad idea as nature can usually find a way to control weed populations in the longterm. I say usually because I know that, for example, Canada thistle is now running rampant in wild, uncultivated sections of our summer pasture land. But it is still looking like there is some kind of balance with grass and forest.

    Anyway, I do think your rewilding idea is sound, but I think you will need to manage it. Think permaculture with that area as your wild zone (whatever that number is).

  14. 2009 July 16
    linda permalink

    We have Canadian thistle and several other thistles. Management is proving to be very hard for us namely because we are not there enough and because it already is “rewilded”.

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